The Drumbeat with Josie & Pete

Join us as we talk about policy, not politics! We take a non-partisan approach to discussing serious topics with serious people, all while mixing in lots of humor, some wit, and a slight chance of sarcasm. 😐 Every episode, we’ll kick things off with a question. We’ll explore how Michigan policy decisions impact you and your community. We’ll cover everything from Michigan Supreme Court rulings to pending legislation, executive actions, and maybe even some buzz from the AG and SOS. We’ve got you covered! 🎙️

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Episodes

Saturday Sep 28, 2024

Hosts Josie Ann Lee and Pete Martel discuss the Second Look legislation in Michigan, which would allow judges to revisit sentences for long-serving prisoners. Currently, Michigan has a high percentage of people serving sentences of 10+ years and an average sentence length three times the national average. Second Look would give judges the opportunity to reduce sentences, potentially saving the state billions of dollars and alleviating racial disparities in the justice system.
Guest Drummers, Noah Attal a data analyst, shares research showing Michigan's outlier status in sentencing and the potential cost savings and reduced racial disparities that Second Look could bring. Ronald Simpson-Bey, a formerly incarcerated person and advocate, shares his personal experience and the transformative power of Second Look for both incarcerated individuals and victims. He emphasizes the importance of humanizing people impacted by the justice system.
The episode highlights that Second Look is not about releasing all prisoners but providing an opportunity for judges to reconsider sentences based on individual circumstances and rehabilitation. The discussion emphasizes the need to shift the narrative around criminal justice reform, highlighting the potential for cost savings, reduced racial disparities, and positive community impact. It concludes with a call for greater advocacy and collaboration to push the legislation forward, emphasizing the power of hope and the positive changes it can inspire within the prison system.

Saturday Sep 14, 2024

We are excited to launch The Drumbeat with Josie & Pete!
Welcome to Episode One where we start with the question: 
HOW DID WE GET HERE?
Josie and Pete's friendship goes all the way back to kindergarten in 1979. But after graduating high school in 1992, their paths diverged dramatically. Pete became involved in crime, while Josie prepared for college. By the summer of '94, a staggering 7% of their classmates were dead or incarcerated, leaving a scar on their entire community.
That June, Pete was arrested after an armed robbery and shootout. He spent years in prison, including a decade in solitary confinement following a failed escape attempt. His journey towards freedom wouldn't be complete until 2008.
During those 14 years, Josie built a life for herself. She graduated from the University of Michigan, pursued comedy in Chicago, and even wrote a sitcom.  After her father's sudden passing, she moved back home to support her mother. Eventually, she returned to Ann Arbor, started a business, and met the love of her life.
Through it all, Josie and Pete stayed connected through letters.  When Pete got out in 2008, they reconnected in person and have experienced the last 16 years together supporting each other, giving each other a lot of shit, and laughing through it all. 
Our first episode answers the questions:  How we got here, where we are going, and how. you can help.
We invite you to join on us this journey.....Let's Get Drumming!
 

Saturday Sep 14, 2024

We are excited to launch The Drumbeat with Josie & Pete!
Welcome to Episode One where we start with the question: 
HOW DID WE GET HERE?
Josie and Pete's friendship goes all the way back to kindergarten in 1979. But after graduating high school in 1992, their paths diverged dramatically. Pete became involved in crime, while Josie prepared for college. By the summer of '94, a staggering 7% of their classmates were dead or incarcerated, leaving a scar on their entire community.
That June, Pete was arrested after an armed robbery and shootout. He spent years in prison, including a decade in solitary confinement following a failed escape attempt. His journey towards freedom wouldn't be complete until 2008.
During those 14 years, Josie built a life for herself. She graduated from the University of Michigan, pursued comedy in Chicago, and even wrote a sitcom.  After her father's sudden passing, she moved back home to support her mother. Eventually, she returned to Ann Arbor, started a business, and met the love of her life.
Through it all, Josie and Pete stayed connected through letters.  When Pete got out in 2008, they reconnected in person and have experienced the last 16 years together supporting each other, giving each other a lot of shit, and laughing through it all. 
Our first episode answers the questions:  How we got here, where we are going, and how. you can help.
We invite you to join on us this journey.....Let's Get Drumming!
 

EPISODE 2 | WHEN IS ENOUGH, ENOUGH? 

Hosts Josie Ann Lee and Pete Martel discuss the Second Look legislation in Michigan, which would allow judges to revisit sentences for long-serving prisoners. Currently, Michigan has a high percentage of people serving sentences of 10+ years and an average sentence length three times the national average. Second Look would give judges the opportunity to reduce sentences, potentially saving the state billions of dollars and alleviating racial disparities in the justice system.

Guest Drummers, Noah Attal a data analyst, shares research showing Michigan's outlier status in sentencing and the potential cost savings and reduced racial disparities that Second Look could bring. Ronald Simpson-Bey, a formerly incarcerated person and advocate, shares his personal experience and the transformative power of Second Look for both incarcerated individuals and victims. He emphasizes the importance of humanizing people impacted by the justice system.

The episode highlights that Second Look is not about releasing all prisoners but providing an opportunity for judges to reconsider sentences based on individual circumstances and rehabilitation. The discussion emphasizes the need to shift the narrative around criminal justice reform, highlighting the potential for cost savings, reduced racial disparities, and positive community impact. It concludes with a call for greater advocacy and collaboration to push the legislation forward, emphasizing the power of hope and the positive changes it can inspire within the prison system.

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